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This topic is about Recommendations on clients?, the author, ThEmP3G0d, wrote about: QUOTE (tribler.org)Last modified 2 years ago Now that's what I call working with current information - and wassup with sharing download history? ... To read more just scroll down

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ThEmP3G0d
post Jun 19 2011, 09:26 PM
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Now that's what I call working with current information - and wassup with sharing download history? And what if I don't care to share my download history? And a built in player? Is it any good? What if I prefer WinAMP/VLC/A-monkey-with-a-fiddle?

µtorrent and BitTornado ftw

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post Jun 19 2011, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE (ThEmP3G0d @ Jun 19 2011, 09:26 PM) *
Now that's what I call working with current information - and wassup with sharing download history? And what if I don't care to share my download history? And a built in player? Is it any good? What if I prefer WinAMP/VLC/A-monkey-with-a-fiddle?

µtorrent and BitTornado ftw


IMHO The great idea was bittorent protocol ideation. About normal bt clients is a question of "i like it for his Gui or his plugin or not". Tribler (not as a simple bt client but as a bt enhanced net) is not a finite product yet anyway, but slowly is on the right way. In other words is a High-tech(and here's IMO the great difference Vs the rest) product not yet usable as intended but on the way.

Ok IMO here the strong points are:
1. Tribler is a research work(i believe in research smile.gif ). The only one AFAIK
2. and as such introduce some interesting ideas(take a glance in their papers)

PS : On purpose the player is VLC(i use the svn repository and player not work in the latest repo revision but as i refer up the player is not the strong point) and i prefer A-monkey-with-a-Dean Exotica QSE guitar LOL wink.gif

have fun
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post Jun 20 2011, 01:31 AM
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As far as I can see your sharing directorys directly with other peers just like Kazaa anybody? It's actually not a new concept, remember exeem?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXeem

I can see why it might appeal to some, but there is a problem with staying of the radar.

Best of luck tho. smile.gif

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QUOTE (nightspydk @ Jun 20 2011, 01:31 AM) *
As far as I can see your sharing directorys directly with other peers just like Kazaa anybody? It's actually not a new concept, remember exeem?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXeem


hi @nightspydk

Indeed "Tribler adds keyword search ability to the BitTorrent file download protocol using a gossip protocol, somewhat similar to the eXeem network which was shut down in 2005." from wP

The difference is that Tribler is an accademic research work, is Open source and has some EU money behind AFAIK.

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I can see why it might appeal to some, but there is a problem with staying of the radar.


What's the problem with staying of the radar ? I don't get it




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An important difference between kazaa and bittorent is that you will not be able to see what is in my download directory thrue bittorent by the usual means. You will only notice the one torrent both of us share.
It's a safety problem with some protocols like Limewire. As long as there are some normal procedures you need to adhere to in a court preceding, it's not a big problem I think, but if all it takes is a screenshot of some files, it's a completely different matter.
In any case, it will be a lot easier to log your bittorent activity with an app like than, than with a normal client, where you need to compare IPs on a large scale.
There are most likely special application developed allready with logging in mind, but I won't take any unnessasary chances and it's not because I'm a chicken. It's because that would be stupid.

Hope that made it a bit clearer for you and I still really wish you the best with this project, though you need to keep in mind, that in some sence your responsible for the security of those, who choose to use this application in the future.
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QUOTE (nightspydk @ Jun 20 2011, 02:29 PM) *
An important difference between kazaa and bittorent is that you will not be able to see what is in my download directory thrue bittorent by the usual means. You will only notice the one torrent both of us share.

It's a safety problem with some protocols like Limewire. As long as there are some normal procedures you need to adhere to in a court preceding, it's not a big problem I think, but if all it takes is a screenshot of some files, it's a completely different matter.
In any case, it will be a lot easier to log your bittorent activity with an app like than, than with a normal client, where you need to compare IPs on a large scale.
There are most likely special application developed allready with logging in mind, but I won't take any unnessasary chances and it's not because I'm a chicken. It's because that would be stupid.


Hi nightspydk
I feel to point that my interest about P2P(and content exchange in general) is only technical with some extent to privacy and abstract from other --no trivial anyway-- issues (about content, social impact, legality etc)

From his genesis but today too i like the bt proto because:
1. is open source and that's a great thing
2. for the sharing of the peer's upload bandwidth,
3. for his democracy(no supernodes leaf nodes. Can participate anyone from 56kbps to Gbps etc) and
4. relatively(to other protos) his decentralization model(the only (micro)server here was/is the tracker). The search of content the user must do it itself out of the bt protocol. That decentralization is good also for privacy

AFAIK the tribler enhancements in the bt proto (search etc) are designed with the real decentralization(trough overlay networks on bt network) in mind


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Hope that made it a bit clearer for you and I still really wish you the best with this project,


I hope i get what u would express.
I'm only a "enthusiast" normal user of the crowd out there that loosely contribute to the proj (i test --as a final user--the svn repository revisions and report the macroscopic bugs in their forum that's all. Take a look there if u want). The proj(AFAIK try to enhance -note: not change- the bt proto) IMHO right now is in a heavy dev phase, is not completely mature, miss some features respect their final target, has not end to end encryption(to came as i know) etc but is on the right way and test important concepts. That's the important point IMHO.

"enhance the bt proto" mean:
further decentralization(get out tracker: the only central point in the bt protocol)
ok not to rewrite all that stuff take a glance here

Anyway actually their client work as a normal simple bt client(maybe without the bells & whistles of other well known & tested clients) too. but the interesting stuff resides in the keyword "enhanced"

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though you need to keep in mind, that in some sence your responsible for the security of those, who choose to use this application in the future.


i agree about security. It's important.
Ok Arpanet/Internet was an academic work and was successful as today demonstrate to us. I guess that work is in the same wave and i hope all goes as intended for all us smile.gif

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Harry

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Tribler Webography
1. tribler researsh papers
2. p2p-next EU proj papers

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