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UK Prison Island Redux
This topic is about UK Prison Island Redux, the author, Foghorn, wrote about: I think a hung parliament where no one has a clear mandate to do anything or a majority with which to do it would be the best solution. ... To read more just scroll down
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 Oct 18 2008, 04:32 PM
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I think a hung parliament where no one has a clear mandate to do anything or a majority with which to do it would be the best solution.
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Oct 19 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance. Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it marks the latest government move to create a surveillance society. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/poli...icle4969312.ece |
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Oct 19 2008, 03:15 PM
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Surely that would only apply to the purchase of a SIM card?
In the UK at the moment, and I'm about to register a SIM sent free through the post, with my unlocked phone. I'll update with any difficulties. |
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Oct 19 2008, 04:29 PM
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LMAO at that story... walk through any car boot sale or Sunday market in the UK and you'll find a handful of guys who will not only sell you a pre activated sim card (no need to register) but who will also unlock/flash your phone to work with any simcard.
As one of the comments so succinctly pointed out: "If people can get into this country without a passport what makes you think people will need one to buy a phone?!" That's not to say that the Labour party are not hell bent on sticking to their policy of control freakery and intrusive surveillance... just that this has all the hallmarks of a policy hastily imagined by someone who hasn't the faintest idea how the technology works. |
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Oct 19 2008, 05:06 PM
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QUOTE (yourmercifulgod @ Oct 19 2008, 05:29 PM)  someone who hasn't the faintest idea how the technology works. So.... satellites can track my mobile phone and tell the FBI where I am.... 
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Oct 19 2008, 06:54 PM
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lol, poor misguided Labour.... it will be such a sweet day that these numpties get their marching order from Government.
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Oct 19 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (bigbaldybloke @ Oct 19 2008, 06:06 PM) So.... satellites can track my mobile phone and tell the FBI where I am.... Actually, your phone's location is logged using triangulation, not satellites.... However, the point is, that if your phone is not identified as belonging to you, then knowing where it is/was or when it called (and to what numbers) makes the data utterly pointless. It's like having speed cameras snap your Veyron going past Watford Services at 250MPH, but not having the DVLA keepers details registered anywhere, preventing the Borough Council sending your fixed penalty through the post. |
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Oct 23 2008, 05:14 PM
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I decided to toss this in this thread since it is somewhat in the vein of "1984" as, I think, this topic is.
Scientists in the US say they have developed the ability to selectively wipe out uncomfortable memories. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7685541.stm Perhaps someday unethical people can make us forget the bad things they have done to us. Governments as an example. |
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Oct 27 2008, 07:52 PM
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And you thought Rave meant dancing.
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http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.pht...or-police.phtml
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Ten of thousands of handheld devices capable of taking fingerprint readings could soon be distributed to British policemen. The Mobile Identification At Scene (Midas) project, which has so far costed at £30m-£40m, could soon see the average bobby able to take a fingerprint reading on the street to be able to identify someone straight away. The move, however, is already causing concern, coming so soon after the announcements of increasingly invasive plans by the government to keep data on British citizens. The police force has tried to allay some fears stating that the fingerprints taken by the scanners will not be stored or added to any government databases. But the civil rights group, Liberty, emphasised that this must be the case or the police, ironically, will be breaking the law. |
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Oct 27 2008, 07:56 PM
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And you thought Rave meant dancing.
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In addition if you choose to remove painful memories you are removing a building block that made you what you are, if you never have to feel pain you never have to learn empathy or compassion.
I'll take the memories. |
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Oct 27 2008, 09:25 PM
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lol, I keep having to look at pictures of Policemen and Policewomen to remember what they look like...
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Nov 7 2008, 04:37 PM
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And you thought Rave meant dancing.
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QUOTE "In what sounds like a dystopian sci-fi plot, the Home Office has made public plans to outfit the country's Internet with upstream data recorders to log pretty much everything that passes through. 'Under Government plans to monitor internet traffic, raw data would be collected and stored by the black boxes before being transferred to a giant central database. The vision was outlined at a meeting between officials from the Home Office and Internet Service Providers earlier this week.'" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/338...site-visit.html I will just keep posting this stuff here, I don't the need for another thread since it is all UK Government oppression stuff |
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Nov 7 2008, 04:45 PM
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I noticed a few more cameras on this visit to the UK. And quite a difference between Tenerife and Gatwick airport security..
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Nov 7 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE (f33dback @ Nov 7 2008, 04:37 PM) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/338...site-visit.html I will just keep posting this stuff here, I don't the need for another thread since it is all UK Government oppression stuff lol, and when the Government expects the ISPs to foot the bill for such technology the whole thing will fall apart. Not to mention that Labour will be in oposition in 2 years time.... Keep posting f33dback, it keeps me laughing. *edit* Labour has missed out here, they want to call the database IMP (Interception Modernisation Programme) but they should call it the "Government's Interception Modernisation Programme" so we could all call it GIMP. This post has been edited by eazbak: Nov 7 2008, 05:41 PM |
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Nov 9 2008, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE (torrenter @ Nov 7 2008, 10:45 AM) I noticed a few more cameras on this visit to the UK. And quite a difference between Tenerife and Gatwick airport security.. Didn't you move because you didn't like what the UK was becoming? I seem to recall, from a couple of years ago, you mentioning that as part of the reason you wanted to leave. |
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Nov 9 2008, 05:18 AM
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Yes, he did and so did I but it's one thing living there for most of your life and quite another Googling stuff and forming your opinions based on reading the right-wing press who currently support the Opposition. One thing most North Americans have great difficulty getting their heads around is just how crowded the UK is and how on top of each other the majority of people live. When you are there it's the norm. Only after leaving can you see that not everywhere is like that. I think many of Britain's social problems can be blamed squarely on this fact alone. Having cameras and digital recording equipment everywhere is one thing. Making it work effectively when it's run by the government is quite another.
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Nov 9 2008, 09:20 AM
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