Gas Boycott

we the population of the world(or at least filesoup members) should ban gas consumption for a 48hr period. I really think this would send a strong msg to the goverments and oil companies around the world . LETS PICK A DATE I suggest July 3-4.

http://www.boycottgas.ca/

The reason gas is so expensive is that we use more than is available. Boycotting is useless. Look for an alternative.

boycotting is usefull, because then we use less then available, so prices will drop again.

Altough ~60%-70% of the gasprice is taxes around here

the problem is that people still need gas (as in our lawn business) so they will continue to buy it, bitching all the way...

but there are alot of businesses that are effected dramatically by this...we already raised our rates this year, and if we have to again we stand to lose some customers...wtf is going on? it`s just totally crazy

and if everyone boycotted, the oil companies would take notice, but as stated, people will continue to buy it

not making sense? well, i just need more coffee sry....

there are some good reasons to boycott gas and the biggest is to reduce the tax we pay on it
the Gov is purposley delaying alternative fuel projects so they can get this huge cash grab for the next 3 - 4 yrs then they will allow auto makers to start converting its new production cars.

I don't know where everyone lives - I am in Canada (southern Ontario to be exact). Every morning I get up and gas has gone up yet again. It is disgusting. The tax on gas is unbelievable. I can't believe that the major car manufacturers have not come out with more options. There are a few with hybrid versions of cars (although these too are quite expensive). WTF is right. A lot of companies that have to use gas are now charging their customers a "fuel surcharge". Where I live, there are not any city buses or transportation so I don't have a choice but to drive. I can't imagine what the prices will be like in the summer.

I think that the price of diesel may be a greater concern to us than gasoline. The trucking industry that we are totally dependant on, since previous governments so wisely removed all the railway tracks, is going to pass every increase on to the consumer and we will feel it in every area of our lives. The other question is;why has the price of diesel, which historically has been much less than gas, risen so dramatically? There is less refining required also.
Here in Nova Scotia truckers are talking of just parking their rigs because there is no way to make money.
Bring back the railways.

What are your guys gas prices? When it goes up to E1.628/litre you can start complaining:P

we should be paying $20 a Ltr.........

boycotting by way of STOPPING consumption lets say for a 48 hour period would do exactly... NILL to the oil companies, they get millions, billions of dollars EVERY DAY.. and except for if you got a WHOLE country to join in and actually stop for... lets say.. a month (which is highly unlikely) it won't have a single affect, because after that 48 hour period, we'd just go out and buy TWICE as much petrol as we did before.. just making their profit bigger on one day instead of multiple..

some, if not most people won't understand a word i just said, but... It's good enough.. and i felt like talking a little..

Boycotting it , hmm yes i can see where you comming from !

But i don't think that's an option.

Alternative fuels seem alot better idea to me !

Bmw has had the technoligy for over 35 year's to run car's on Hydrogen , Emission's ?? WATER VAPOUR !!!!

a baby could stick it's mouth over the exhuast and not get hurt , at all !

Ok sure it will cost alot for a "install"

But , the more people who do it the cheaper it will get.

The Natural Gas you can by for car's these day's for a conversion is like what 1200-2000 pounds in the Uk..

so around 1700-4000 USD.

But in the long rong you save alot of money.

But it just need's more people to buy into it , technoligy become's cheaper with more people buying it !




But acording to the Scientists ... , We are going to run out of resources with in the next 25 -30 year's.

By resources im reffering to fosil fuels.

Why doesnt some one try running the car on cooking oil ?

I've done it , ok no to my car ofcourse !!!

but , in college in mechanic's we got an old diesel , mixed 50% Diesel 50% Cooking oil ( Recycled )

And it run just as good , ok the smoke smelt of Curry ( we had the oil from a fast food shop )
and sure we lost a few bhp -11 in total , but what's the to an extra 100 dollars in you pocket evertime you fill up !


Just an idea anywho , not one person is going to change the world , so i want your opinions !

Hit back !

Safe Motoring.

Hydrogen is a storage system, not a fuel. You need at least as much power to 2 H2O->2 H2 + O2 then you get from 2 H2 + O2 -> 2 H2O

Just a Peace of information i found on a BMW forum.



BMW is the only major carmaker to bring a car with a hydrogen-combustion engine beyond the prototype stage.

The automaker's approach is markedly different than the more familiar concept of hydrogen-powered fuel cells, where energy is stored before it is converted into electricity. By contrast, BMW's Hydrogen 7 is powered by pumping hydrogen into a combustion engine and igniting it. The engine can burn both hydrogen and gasoline, and switches between the two at the flick of a switch.

Burning hydrogen is more efficient than converting it into electricity, making it the more practical choice for hydrogen-fueled cars now, according to BMW.


So to go against your argument " Hydrogen isn't a fuel " i beg to differ my freind

This post has been edited by Plox: May 23 2008, 11:58 PM

Plox, I think you're a little confused about using hydrogen as a fuel. The reason it is called an energy storage meathod is because, unlike gasoline or other similar fuel, it does not exist in the H2 form in nature abundantly. It needs to be produced by electrolysis by breaking water into hydrogen gas and oxygen. There other methods for producing hydrogen but in each of these meathods energy is added to produce the hydrogen. When it is burned it releases the stored energy which helps you move. With hydrogen as an energy storage method you have the challenge of storing enough for a decent range for your vehicle. Because hydrogen is a gas, it needs to be stored under pressure. And in order for there to be enough energy available, there has to be a large enough tank that can store at very high pressure. Storage of enough fuel is the largest issue for auto makers. Making an engine run on hydrogen does not require much work, it's just a matter of getting the hydrogen, getting a large enough storage tank, and changing the timing on the ignition. There's a little more but not much. Check out these guys to get the info for the conversion: Knowledge Publications

Yes i agree , but the size of the tank isnt really the issue , the issue is the safety , hydrogen is very unstable , but this is overcome by Bmw fuel tank design , almost like a sponge.

The aluminium tank has millions of tiny cells , so if one was to rupture it wouldnt burst out with a sudden boom of pressure , and the chances of the tank completly errupting are zero.

And as for the electricty factor thats nonsense , we can use nuclear power.. witch is allready in use ?


during the process you would be creating 100 oxygen , this could be used for hmm i dont know , hospitals ?
and when burnt the fuel gives off 100% H2o

So we have all the water we would ever need , just look at the oceans , and once burned it would turn into water vapour , and then rain back into the sea's.


And i don't see how the size of the tank is a problem ?

LPG , no problems with size of the tank ect ?

And the advantages our great !

increased Bhp !
100% Invioremently Freindly !!

Constant source of fuel.

Need i say more